Porqué han desaparecido jugadores del mercado
Como habréis podido comprobar estos días, tras la reciente salida de la nueva actualización para FIFA 15, y la implantación del sistema de Franja de Precios en Ultimate Team, los jugadores más valiosos de este modo (jugadores con mucha media como Cristiano Ronaldo o Messi, así como otros de interés como diversas versiones TOTW, TOTY y MOTM), son imposibles de adquirir en el mercado, ya que al buscarlos no aparecen o, si tenéis la suerte de encontrar uno, prácticamente son adquiridos por otro usuario al instante.
A esto, se le une el hecho de que ciertos futbolistas, más baratos, son difíciles de vender, ya que por un lado, que muchos usuarios hayan adquirido nuevos jugadores top, les resulte «innecesario» comprar a otros de menor calidad, además de poseer menos monedas para ello, ya que las han invertido en, como he dicho antes, en jugadores de mayor calado.
Se produce así un hecho doblemente problemático, ya que el mercado ahora está muy limitado, al no poder comprar y vender según que caso, y poder ir cambiando de plantillas se dificulta. Pero, ¿porqué se ha producido esta situación? Para explicarlo, haré distinción entre dos tipos de cartas que han desaparecido, que para simplificarlo, dividiré entre los que cuestan más de 700.000 monedas y los que tienen un precio menor a esa cantidad.
- Jugadores de más de 700k: En esta categoría estarían jugadores como Cristiano, Messi, o las diferentes versiones TOTY que hay en FUT. El motivo de que estos jugadores hayan desaparecido es debido, principalmente, a la fuerte bajada en su precio, lo que genera que los propietarios que adquirieran dichos jugadores antes de la actualización, a un precio mucho mayor que el que poseen ahora, no quieran venderlos, ya que perderían una cantidad importante de monedas. Por eso, muchos optan por quedarse esos jugadores y usarlos en sus plantillas antes de ponerlos en venta y perder dinero.
- Jugadores de menos de 700k: En esta categoría, según que casos, también responden a la explicación anterior, el no vender por no querer ver una pérdida importante de monedas. Sin embargo, aquí hay otra razón adicional. Debido a que muchos de estos jugadores han bajado mucho de precio, como Neymar 86, Agüero 86 o Suárez, alcanzando precios altos pero más accesibles, provoca que muchos usuarios que ya disponen, a estas alturas, una mayor cantidad de monedas, no duden en hacerse con ellos nada más salen al mercado, ya que antes de la actualización no podían permitirse a estos futbolistas. Una vez los adquieren, claro está, durante un tiempo no los pondrán en venta.
¿Cambiará esta situación?
Como es evidente, es imposible aseverar si esta situación cambiará o no, ya que el mercado, como se ha comprobado este año, no responde a fórmulas fijas, y adivinar un resultado exacto es imposible. Sin embargo, en mi opinión, esto debería ir revirtiendo con el paso de los días. Explico porqué.
Han pasado pocos días desde que se lanzó la actualización, y los motivos que expliqué anteriormente que han producido el problema actual en el mercado no remiten de manera rápida, pero es de esperar que inevitablemente, se vuelva a normalizar todo. En primer lugar, los usuarios que adquirieron jugadores a un precio mucho mayor al actual, cuando «asuman» que la pérdida de monedas es inevitable, volverán a ir poniendo a sus jugadores en venta, ya que no para poder ir variando los jugadores de su plantilla, necesitarán monedas, y la forma de conseguirlas es vendiendo dichos futbolistas. Tened a Cristiano Ronaldo o Messi en nuestra plantilla es muy interesante, pero incluso de jugadores de este tipo también podemos «cansarnos», y buscar futbolistas nuevos con los que componer plantillas diferentes.
No hay que olvidar que seguirán saliendo, cada semana, diferentes jugadores TOTW y MOTM, sin contar los TOTS que saldrán a final de temporada, versiones todas muy interesantes de grandes estrellas que, todos, querremos probar, adquiriéndolos de manera directa en el mercado o buscándolos en sobres.
Estos debería ir ocurriendo con todos los jugadores, de una categoría u otra, aunque que ocurra finalmente, o cuando suceda, es una incógnita. Aunque, repito, como he dicho antes, a mi juicio esto debería suceder, pero que ocurra o no, ya depende del mercado.
¿Y si esta situación no revirtiera?
Si no se diera el supuesto que he explicado en el caso anterior, y esta situación se dilatara más tiempo, debería ser la propia EA Sports la que tomara el mando para cambiar este hecho. Es de esperar que lo que ha sucedido con el mercado, fuese una posibilidad que EA contemplara que pudiera ocurrir, y que por ello, tuvieran preparada una posible solución.
El principal remedio para esto que se me ocurre, es que comiencen a dar mejores recompensas en sobres, es decir, que la probabilidad de que salgan mejores jugadores en sobres fuera mayor. Eso inyectaría al mercado una nueva remesa de jugadores de primer nivel, por lo que habría más con los que poder comerciar, llegando a más usuarios, y de este modo dar un empujón para que el mercado vuelva a la normalidad. Claro, ahí sería la propia EA la encargada de plantearse este hecho y llevarlo a cabo. A mi modo de ver, creo que sería la opción más óptima.
Cabe tener ahora paciencia, y esperar unos días para ver como evoluciona el mercado. No debemos olvidar que solo hace tres días que se puso en marcha la Franja de precios, y el impacto inicial aún no se ha asimilado en una gran parte de los usuarios de FUT. Veremos, y esperemos, que esta situación vaya cambiando para bien, y que todos podamos disfrutar de esta rebaja de precios, y fluyan los jugadores en el mercado.
Y vosotros, ¿qué opináis de esto? ¿Qué otras soluciones plantearíais?
12 marzo, 2015
Buenas ideas la verdad, el mercado está atascadísimo, solo sé venden jugadores de 1.000/2.000 monedas, ojalá tengas razón y en unos días cambie está situación, porque muy a mi pesar, no creo que EA haga nada para remediarlo, ya que, que no se mueva el mercado provoca también que la gente al no tener monedas acuda a comprar los famosos FIFA POINTS…
12 marzo, 2015
"Es de esperar que lo que ha sucedido con el mercado, fuese una posibilidad que EA contemplara que pudiera ocurrir, y que por ello, tuvieran preparada una posible solución."
Este es el mejor chiste en años, no puedo parar de reir que EA tenga preparado algo que no sea joder juegos JaJAJaJAJAAjajA
12 marzo, 2015
¿En realidad pensáis que ellos no se preocupan en que sus juegos vayan bien?
Si yo fuera tuviera un juego, creado por mí, lo primero que querría es que fuera divertido y que la gente que lo compre estuviera contenta. ¿Porqué? Porque así seguirían jugando, y el próximo que sacara al mercado, lo comprarían.
No hablo aquí de EA en concreto, si no de todas las compañías. Un videojuego que vende millones de copias cada año no llega aquí de manera gratuita y sin cuidar a sus usuarios.
Otra cosa es que se puedan pulir diferentes aspectos, pero no decir tajantemente que "pasan" de ellos.
12 marzo, 2015
No si preocuparse deben de preocuparse un montón, sobre todo por vender fifa points y sacar más pasta.
Tu querrías que fuera divertido, ellos quieren que sea más y más rentable.
Decir tajántemente que "pasan" de ellos sólo lo dices tu.
Se cargaron BF y ahora se cargan FIFA juegos de los que yo era fanático y ahora ni me apetece jugar.
12 marzo, 2015
Estoy de acuerdo contigo a EA no les preocupa la diversion que su juego da les preocupa la pasta que su juego genera muy atinado tu comentario ademas les conviene que el mercado este asi para que comience la desesperacion y a comprar fifapoints como animales jaja y lo que que se imaginan es la pasta que ganaran en los tots digo porque ingenuos habra siempre que les compraran sus mierda points aunque sinceramente seran menos lo que que esperan se han cargado el juego EA lo han echo super aburrido
12 marzo, 2015
Para mi la pregunta es que pasara con el mercado entorneos puntuales como el q se viene en breve( fin de semana se anunciará el torneo de San patricio?). ¿Habra recuperación o todo se ha roto?
12 marzo, 2015
Cuando haya torneos de este tipo, los jugadores válidos para los mismos, subirán, claro está. Simplemente que ahora llegarán a su tope, el cual será más bajo del que pudieran haber alcanzado.
12 marzo, 2015
Es normal que la gente que compró a los cracks hace una semana no se vaya a desprender de ellos tan facilmente. Además que el cambio en PS4 ha sido muy drástico ya que Robben, por decirte algo, estaba a 15M y ahora vale la mitad.
Pero esque no se ven el mercado ni los Suárez If, ni los motm de ayer…! y eso que por estos nadie pierde coins de momento.
En mi caso, tengo Candravas If a punta pala, con los que tenía pensado llegar a ese Suárez If que iba a valer 15m. Doy por hecho que los tendré que vender a precio mínimo, mucho menos de lo pensado, pero realmente si luego Suárez esta en 7m máximo hasta saldría ganando. Toda esta teoría se desmorona en el momento que me planteo que antes si iba a poder lograr comprarlo por esos 15m y ahora aunque tenga malvender y consiga el dinero, no lo voy a encontrar en el mercado.
La única solución es la que das, mejorar esos sobres por qué por ahora siguen como siempre.
12 marzo, 2015
Me parece que poco a poco van apareciendo.Anoche pude comprar a Suarez NIF para probarlo.Duró un segundo en la lista pero lo pude comprar.Creo que se va a ir normalizando y van a empezar a aparecer como bien decís.El primer día pude tradear bien.Ayer se me complicó muchísimo.Cabe aclarar que todas las monedas que tengo,las hice tradeando.Jamás he comprado ni compraré monedas.El domingo pasado tuve la iluminación de vender a Neymar 86(Casi desaparecido del mercado por su bajísimo costo) por 590k y comprar el UP por 640k.
Nuevamente felicitaciones por la página!
12 marzo, 2015
Sí, algunos jugadores van saliendo más. Yo también pude fichar a Suarez, aunque duran muy poco en el mercado,eso es cierto. Tenemos que tener paciencia a ver como va moviéndose el mercado.
Gracias por el comentario compi 🙂
12 marzo, 2015
Hola te felicito por la pagina siempre te leo , podras hacer un post con los jugadores que antes eran prohibitivos y q ahora se pueden probar o de los q mas bajaron de precio y conviene hechar un vistazo ? Gracias de antemano
12 marzo, 2015
Okis, me lo apunto a ver si puedo hacer algo así 🙂
Gracias amigo.
12 marzo, 2015
Por mi está bien, detesto a todos aquellos que compran o compraban monedas y es la única manera en la que te hacen cara a cara porque de saber jugar pues nada
12 marzo, 2015
Buscarán la forma de poder seguir comprando y vendiendo monedas, eso tenlo por seguro. Quien hace la ley hace la trampa. Esperemos que para el próximo año elimienen el problema de raíz. Si no un cliente menos que van a tener, y no seré el único.
12 marzo, 2015
Es cierto que de algún modo seguirán vendiendo monedas, ya que siempre sacan algún método estas páginas. Eso sí, se les ha dado un gran golpe, ya que no podrán obtener tantos beneficios como antes.
Para el próximo FIFA, esperemos que esto esté mejor arreglado. Si no, el único método que puede existir para eliminar de raíz ese problema, sería quitar el mercado, algo que no nos gustaría a muchos, ya que es una de las gracias de este modo de juego.
12 marzo, 2015
QUITAR EL MERCADO = A TERMINAR DE FREGAR ALGO QUE YA EMPEZARON A HACER
SE MAS CREATIVO HAY MAS FORMAS DE QUITAR LA VENTA DE MONEDAS COMO ELIMINAR LOS DATOS DE LAS CARTAS EN LAS SUBASTAS POR DECIR UN EJEMPLO SINO QUE SE VAN POR LO PRIMERO QUE LLEGA A LA MENTE
12 marzo, 2015
Segun dijiste en el post de cosas de la actualizacion. Ponia que arreglaron el cambio de club en modo carrera un jugador.
Sabes si al tener uno ya creado de antes de actualizacion sirve igual?
12 marzo, 2015
Sí, sirve igual. Debería de funcionar ya perfectamente.
12 marzo, 2015
Dijisteis en el podcast que el torneo de patricio salia en 1 o 2 semanas xD o quizas lo entendí mal. Ahora que saco el tema, esta tarde anunciaran el torneo san patricio y mañana viernes lo activaran a lo largo del dia? tal y como paso con la mls? subiran ahi los irish? quiero quitarmelos de encima pero ya coooño!
12 marzo, 2015
Lo que esta pasando en la comunidad de fifa da asco ,los youtubers llorando por no poder tener un ayuda ilegal a la hora de jugar ,no entiendo porque se cabrean si sabían que esto podía pasar .
Por eso yo no veré mas canales que patrocinen monedas .
12 marzo, 2015
Josep, sobre lo del torneo de San Patricio, la fecha exacta no se sabe. El día oficial de San Patricio, creo recordar que es el día 17, y el torneo suele durar una semana. Lo que no sabemos es si comenzará mañana y acabará el próximo viernes, o si comenzaría la semana que viene. Estaremos atentos para ver el anuncio oficial.
12 marzo, 2015
Referente al cabreo general que se está produciendo en torno a esto (no me refiero a YouTubers, si no a todo el mundo en general), puedo entenderlo por una parte, ya que ha sido una medida drástica y sin avisar, pero no para llegar hasta este punto, y decir las burradas que se pueden leer en foros o Twitter.
En serio, si tan malo fuera FIFA, tan malo fuera el juego y ahora, como se dice, se lo hubieran cargado… ¿porqué juegan cientos de horas al año a este juego? Yo soy el primero en quejarme de que FIFA tiene fallos como el hándicap, los bugs, los porteros… pero aún así me sigue encantando. Por ello, no puedo si no aplaudir a EA por intentar mejorar la situación que había en el mercado.
Por otra parte, no debemos olvidar que esto es un juego, no se nos puede ir la vida en ello. Se pueden entender momentos puntuales de enfado, pero no en sobre medida.
Esperemos y confiemos en que poco a poco esto vaya a mejor, y el mercado se estabilice.
12 marzo, 2015
DE ACUERDO AL % 100 EN LA PARTE QUE DICES QUE ESTO AL FINAL DE CUENTAS ES SOLO UN JUEGO Y BLA BLA EN ESO TIENES MUCHA RAZON PORQUE LA VIDA ES MUCHO MAS QUE ESO COMO PARA AGOTARTE GRAN PARTE DE ELLA PENSANDO EN UN JUEGO DE FUTBOL
12 marzo, 2015
Lo que ha pasado en fut es facil . Ha habido una inflacion como en la republica de Weimar en la que una barra de pan costaba millones de marcos . En fifa cualquier jugador por encima de la media costaba un monton , bien por ea y por los que no compran monedas
12 marzo, 2015
Jeje muy buena la analogía.
14 marzo, 2015
A mi me parece bien, pero no me gusta que tengan limite minimo, para eso existe el descarte, ahora si esto iguala a los compradores de monedas con los no compradores, porque un No comprador no puede comprar un Messi o Ronaldo, a mi no me alcanza, estuve por llegar porque tenia a David Luiz TOTY cada dia mas caro, y ahora vale un millon.
No iguala nada, los compradores de monedas siguen con sus super equipazos, y los no comprradores de monedas con el tradeo lento que se tiene ahora para llegar a la cima tienen que dedicarle muchisimo tiempo, que yo no tengo, hice mi fortuna tradeando con IFS, y ahora ya no se puede
12 marzo, 2015
Lo han planificado perfectamente para sacar la pasta a los estúpidos (es que no tiene otro nombre el que paga más por jugar a FUT, cómo si fuera barato ya de por sí el FIFA) y lo sacan justo en el momento cuando más daño iban a hacer. A mi personalmente me han jodido 2M, pero a la larga se agradecerá. Fuera los compra monedas
12 marzo, 2015
pero vamos a ver una cosa, yo no he comprado nunca monedas ni fifa point, pero joder, ea por un lado no quiere que se vendan monedas a su costa por que ellos no ven un euro, pero por otro lado fomenta y de hecho venden sus fifa points que al final tambien altera la experiencia del juego, por que al que le sobra la pasta puede comprar fifa points y por consiguiente sobres y por consiguiente mejores jugadores y por consiguiente jugadores para vender en el mercado y conseguir mas monedas… entonces, no es lo mismo que la venta ilegal de monedas, claro que no… pero creo que tambien, como digo, choca con la experiencia del juego… entonces con esta logica lo mejor es que ea deje de vender las mierdas de fifa points y venda monedas legales y alla cada uno con su economia… o si no… ni monedas ni fifa points. la unica manera de ganar monedas para comprar sobres que sea jugando partidos… no???
12 marzo, 2015
Claro, pero ganando una cantidad razonable de monedas por partido, no una miseria de 600. Es que la cantidad de partidos que tienes que jugar para hacerte con un simple suarez neymar o aguero es excesiva, imaginate por TOTY, TOTW, etc etc… Solución: Monedas por partido algo más decente y que al gastarte 100K en sobres o similar el mejor que te entre no sea Sergio Busquets, Pirlo, Moura,…
12 marzo, 2015
Aunque suene raro, desde mi punta de vista, creo que dar más monedas por partido no arreglaría el problema, ya que si dieran más, los jugadores costarían más, porque los usuarios estarían dispuestos a pagar más monedas.
Por ejemplo, si por cada partido, en lugar de dar 600 monedas, dieran 6 monedas, Cristiano en lugar de costar 10 millones, costaría 100.000. Y lo mismo pasaría al revés.
12 marzo, 2015
no… pero no se trata de que suban los premios por partido,torneo, etc… si no, estamos en las mismas, se trata de que den mas premios manteniendo o bajando los precios de los jugadores para que cualquiera que juegue asiduamente pueda comprar jugadores decentes.. y si no, lo que digo, que vendan ellos monedas legales (que al fin y al cabo es lo mismo que fifa points,ya que tanto monedas como fifa points,es como si dijeramos "hacer un equipo a golpe de talonario") y que cada uno haga lo que le de la gana. en el futbol real tambien hay equipos como el madrid o el barça y otros como el llagostera o el hercules… cada uno con el presupuesto que se pueda permitir, y a tomar por culo la historia… ademas en ea seguro que estarian encantados de los ingresos que tendrian… jejeje y por lo menos cada uno haria lo que quisiera con sus monedas (como pasaba hasta ahora con la compra ilegal de las mismas) y no se gastaria la pasta en fifa points para abrir sobres y sacar basura, que es lo unico que hay en ellos, por que gran culpa de que la gente compre monedas es por los atracos que mete ea cada vez que te gastas las monedas y ves lo que te sale en los sobres… o no??
12 marzo, 2015
Fifantastic me recomiendas comprar ahora a guarin if que esta por 90k y aguero de 86 o es mejor esperar a que se regularicen los precios , gracias!
12 marzo, 2015
Esperaría un poco a ver si bajan de precio.
12 marzo, 2015
Buenas, por mi parte debo decir q aplaudo esta medida de EA mas no el momento en q lo hizo, yo tambien perdi monedas, pero algo q esta claro es q algo malo habia aqui; estuve buscando ruberys if y un solo vendedor tenia 12 seguidos, no creo q ese sea un jugador normal como nosotros
12 marzo, 2015
es mejor fichar ahora o esperar, ayuda por favor??
12 marzo, 2015
Yo creo que lo mejor es esperar un poco, a ver si ciertos jugadores bajan.
12 marzo, 2015
que tal va di maria?? merece la pena ficharlo de mc?? un saludo
12 marzo, 2015
Va muy bien. Precisamente yo lo uso ahora en una Premier de MC junto a Ramires, y rinde muy bien.
12 marzo, 2015
y recomiendas pagar 100 por el?? muchas gracias por responder 🙂
12 marzo, 2015
Para mi gusto merece esa cantidad, es de lo mejor en su posición.
12 marzo, 2015
que tal va gary cahill?? felicidades por la pagina 😉
12 marzo, 2015
Va bastante bien, es buen central. Aunque hay mejores opciones como Koscielny y Mangala, eso sí.
12 marzo, 2015
tengo una duda; ¿van a reducir la franja mínima de los jugadores? muy buen trabajo fifantastic
12 marzo, 2015
EA Sports dijo que podría cambiar ciertos precios en el futuro, pero no cuando o cuanto. Esperaremos a ver.
Gracias compi 🙂
12 marzo, 2015
Muy buenas, primero que nada, felicitaros por ésta excelente página, y ahora, tengo éste equipo http://www.futhead.com/15/squads/27058850/ y estoy pensando en vender a ciertos jugadores para hacerme ésta otra plantilla http://www.futhead.com/15/squads/27058787/ ¿Creéis que me convenga?, ¿Me alcanzarían las monedas? y ¿Haríais alguna mejora? Muchas gracias de antemano, sigan así!
13 marzo, 2015
A mi, sinceramente, me gusta más la primera opción, por la que creo que no te convendría el cambio. Otra cosa es que quieras cambiar por variedad, pero por rendimiento es mejor el primer equipo.
Y gracias por el comentario 🙂
12 marzo, 2015
una pregunta por favor. merece la pena chiellini if ?? gracias por contestar.
13 marzo, 2015
No, ya que mejora muy poco al original, y es mucho más caro.
13 marzo, 2015
Pues yo lo siento mucho y sigo creyendo que lo que está sucediendo atiende a las leyes del mercado. Al haberse limitado la compra de monedas, hay menos jugadores con cash, (ficticio), por lo que se compra menos, efectivamente tampoco se vende debido a la devaluación y comprar fifa points no es una opción valida. ¿Por que? En primer lugar porque son carisimas, en segundo lugar porque no puede ser que para encontrar a un jugador que quieres te remitas a la suerte de que coincida en un sobre, en los cuales suele haber todo lo que no nos interesa, a lo que hay que sumar que a los que tenemos la versión americana del juego no nos deja usar fifa points. Por otro lado, nadie puede pensar en comprar un jugador que vale una verdadera animalada, pese a la maravillosa restricción de fifa, como es robben, a base de jugar 7500 partidos y vender 3500 contratos para obtener la suma suficiente. En fin, como defiendo desde el principio, esto no es una política para mejorar el juego, ya que quien debe decidir que es lo mejor o no para jugar y divertirse debe ser el usuario, mas bien es una política recaudadora de fifa que no hace mas que estropear la experiencia.
13 marzo, 2015
la mejor manera de que se acabe el mecado de monedas para ea, es dando mejores premios a la hora de jugar, más monedas por partido, más monedas por campeonato, mantenerse, descender, si vos generás eso, la gente no va a ir a comprar monedas a las páginas ya que jugando las podés conseguir. van a tener dinero para comprar jugadores, etc, es un circulo, pero si son vivos en poco tiempo pueden revertir y poner el mercado en funcionamiento nuevamente.
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